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I have worked with dogs for many years and I am just discusted at how many pure bred dogs have so many medical issues but breeders keep breeding them, why? it is cruel in my book to breed animals that have hip problems, eye disorders, ear, joints, cancer and so many more just because they do not have the genetic diversity they should have. I have recently started to study hybrids and breeds that are three or more in the types of breeds that are mixed together and have found that even after three to five years of age, the dogs have had very few or no medical problems at all. If this can be the case with 60 to 80 percent of all dogs, why not go with making of mixed breeds rather than pure bred?
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There are reputable breeders out there who are fully genetically health testing, and who do not breed dogs that do not pass their health tests. I am planning on becoming such a breeder. The unfortunate fact is that the number of bad breeders outnumbers the number of good breeders. Why? Blame the pop culture that presents breeding as full of fun and "a good way to make money". Also blame lack of education.
I'd be interested in hearing more of this study you speak of...from my research so far, the hybrid vigor is hyped up. Breed dogs with genetic health problems, and the puppies will be born affected. This fact is just that, fact, whether you are breeding pure or mixed.
Have you bred both pure and mixed for your study? How many litters of each have you studied? Also, genetic problems often don't rear their ugly heads until the dog is in it's senior years, so it's not necessarily proof if the dogs are only three to five.
The only case in which I would agree to mixed breeding would be if there were not enough health members in my breed to produce healthy pups. In which case, I would pick a fully-health-tested member of another breed that is similar to mine, preferably having been used in the background of my breed, to mix with.
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you will habe problems with any kind of dog.
With the purebreds you have people bringing pups in this world who are not financially and educationally equipped to do so.
They call themselfs breeder when they let 2 dogs with AKC Papers have pups.
That is when you run into problems.
it is a huge financial undertaking to breed successful healthy temperament stable pups.
You do it for the good of the breed, not to fill up your vacation piggy bank.
people that do it right, have healthy, temperament sound pups.
Our Dogs are not spoiled,we're just well trained 
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whether purebred or mixed, if you breed 2 dogs with the predispostion for a genetic disease you will get a puppy with genetic problems!
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| two thumbs up for responsible breeders. i am a rescue dog kind of girl, but i get why some people like their purebreeds. knowing its history, what to expect... that must be nice. what gets me is seeing ads in the paper for things like "mauzer"- half schnauzer half maltese for $450.00. that, friends, is a mutt. plenty of those at the pound... not knocking the dog, just the fact that someone is selling it them like they put the time, effort and foresight into their breeding, like theyre purebreeds...ugh

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| I totally agree. There are good breeders, but there are more bad breeders.
My dog is smarter than yours!!!  
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rainsmom (9/21/2009) whether purebred or mixed, if you breed 2 dogs with the predispostion for a genetic disease you will get a puppy with genetic problems!
exactly right.
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dobermom (9/23/2009)
rainsmom (9/21/2009) whether purebred or mixed, if you breed 2 dogs with the predispostion for a genetic disease you will get a puppy with genetic problems!exactly right.  Exactly! And by the same token, you don't have to go outside a breed to reduce genetic health issues either. Good breeders are constantly opening their genetic diversity simple by bringing un (or distantly) related European stock, and these programs have been largely successful. It can be problematic in AKC programs because any registries have to be accepted by the AKC, which is a pain sometimes, but since most Euro breeders are FCI it isn't too tough.
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not only that, but people want a dog for cheap , * I want a dog, but do not want to pay for it*, then they wonder, why the dog has problems, Issues.
Because it is soooo much easier, to pay a couple hundred bucks from someone that sells a dog out of the newspaper, or the Walmart parking lot, then to do your research, do the right thing, pay the good money and get yourself a temperament, character sound dog, that will not exhibit these psychotic character traits like a overbred, none genetic tested healthy pup from a reptuble breeder.
I read it here in this forum all the time, man, oh man.
I bet these people have money for other things, but not for a good pup.
You get what you pay for, plain and simple.
So you can not complain later.
Our Dogs are not spoiled,we're just well trained 
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