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| No offence to all pure bred peoples out there, but I seriously preferr mutts! Purebred dogs can get into the hands of shameless breeders, inbred, overbred, etc. Of course there are tons of good reasons but if there were no purereds there would be probably no careless breeders. The Cocker Spaniel and the lab are becoming biters, they are becoming overbred, to many bred carelessly which makes more tempermental dogs. Also I hate breeding for conformation in general! Basset hounds- used to be tall and skinny, but now they are short and and hardly bear weight on those stumpy legs. Is slightly better smelling worth being 12 inches tall? The weiner dogs... Can't spell their names so I'll call them that.- they can be injured easily. Why does their spine have to be stretched out? They would survive being NORMAL! Bulldogs- Their noses are too short, and often they live through life trying desperatly to breathe. Also their heads are too big so they need c-section to give birth most times. German Shepherds- They are BRED so that their hips are big and wide. This makes them cooler, I guess, and also makes them good candiates for hip dysplasia. Dalmations- 30 or 40 % are born deaf. Chihuahuas_ bred to be tiiny so that they can fit in a purse or something and dressed up. Not only are their size totally unfit for their temperments, and their size makes people spoil them until they are aggressive, but many chihuahuas are very fragile. One was killed when it's owner stroked it's head, and one hit it's head against a tissue box... And died. WHAT THE HECK!?!? These dogs shouldn't have to be so fragile, maybe the big 10 pound ones are okay but why do peoplebreed them until they are 3 pounds and about as powerful as china. It's not fair to the dogs. Great danes, Saint bernards, mastiffs, wolfhounds, etc.- Do these dogs really need to be this big? They barely have a chance to live before their legs and hearts give out from supporting so much weight. There are plenty of others, many of whom are bred to look cute or fit in puses or have a certain swagger (gait whatever) but I have named the ones that bug me the most. Is there anyone else out there against breeding? Please do not hate me for stating my opinion. This is what I believe, and I know there are responsible breeders out there but even still toe problems exist. A dog should be what a "Dog" is, 45-60 lbs, no giant head, no shortmuzzles, no too-wide hips, no pretty spots (unless they occur naturally) dogs shouldn't be 2 pounds, and a dog shouldn't be 200 pounds either. A dog should be natural. Humans aren't bred to be perfect and beautiful, neither should dogs. (or cats or horses...) But if you want you could yell and scream to your hearts content, it would make my life more interesting.... Ps, NO I am not a PETA fan.
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| I think you need to do a little bit of reaserch before blaming breeder of these breeds. Offcourse mastiffs and great danes and wolf hounds need to be big. no 5lbs dog could do their job, heck no 50lbs dog could do their jobs. Chis are supposed to be between 3-6lbs. And no they dont break that easy. I think you heard made up stories. Dogs are not all cut from the same cloth. There is differnt needs for size and function. Blame the back yard breeders for the poorly bred, breakable dogs. As they are the ones who are doing it.
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Start with a large fortune"
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I second that.
Each breed, when it was developed had a specific purpose.
Nowadays people own Huskies, and never ever have the inclination of having him / her pull a sled.
A Mastiff was bred for a specific purpose and so was the [refrain from using profanity]zu.
The Bassethound was down bred from the Bloodhound, to be closer to the ground and hunt for vermon.
As a former Owner of a basset , I can tell you, when those guys get a scent, they are gone like the wind.
Blame the people that sell puppies in the newspaper , Walmart, Wendy's Parking lots, and also blame the people for wanting to get a cheap dog.
There is your sign.
People do not want to spend a lot of money for there dog, but expect a champion bloodline puppy, you get what you pay for.
Our Dogs are not spoiled,we're just well trained 
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Texaspup (8/28/2009)
but if there were no purereds there would be probably no careless breeders.sorry to burst your bubble but have you ever heard of the doodle breeds??? Careless breeders of overpriced mutts!!! Even if you got rid of all purebred dogs their would still be the money hungry idiots out there that dont give a crap abut the dog, just all the money they can make by selling there ill bred mutts. not all purebred dogs are poorly bred, there are breeders out there that care more for the dogs health and temperment than the money they supposedly make from breeding. and let me tell you a good breeder very rarly if ever makes a profit from breeding, and if they ever was to make a profit that money just goes right back to the care of the dog.
 
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Texaspup (8/28/2009)
No offence to all pure bred peoples out there, but I seriously preferr mutts! Purebred dogs can get into the hands of shameless breeders, inbred, overbred, etc. Of course there are tons of good reasons but if there were no purereds there would be probably no careless breeders.
It's just as possible to irresponsibly breed a mixed breed as it is to irresponsibly breed a purebred. All you'd have to do is skimp out on health-testing, forget temperament, breed just for the heck of it, breed even though you don't even know when dogs are supposed to come into heat, or any combination of the above.
Also I hate breeding for conformation in general!
Breeding for conformation alone is certainly asking for trouble. I'm a believer in health first, working ability second, and conformation third. I believe in breeding according to standard because it helps to keep the breed unique and separate from other breeds, but I also understand the situation some of the breeds are in. Trouble is, sometimes the standard (in the GSD's case) is too vaque to really get a good idea what the dog is supposed to look like. The slope is a product of human interpretation, mostly of those who breed American-line GSDs. The standard actually says for the croup, or point of the back just above the tail, to be sloped--not the entire back.
Luckily, my breed--Collies--have a pretty good standard.
Is there anyone else out there against breeding? Please do not hate me for stating my opinion. This is what I believe, and I know there are responsible breeders out there but even still toe problems exist.
Problems are going to exist no matter what you do.
I'm against irresponsible breeding. You don't have to outlaw purebred breeding to fix the problem--and that won't fix it anyway. (And I don't like the government intefering in areas they know next to nothing about.) The best option is education, getting enough people to care. And the more responsible and informed breeders there are, the more we can make responsible breeding common knowledge. So why I'm training to be a responsible breeder? Because I care. Because I want to do some good, add some more health to my breed. Educate people.
As for hating you for your opinion, no person worth knowing would be that way. You're quite a delightful person from my experience with you.
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And I love mutts. I love all dogs. ^^
~Tiffany, breeder-in-training
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| (Ooh, hey, I wrote this at least three months ago LOL) I know all you guys said is true. But to be frank, I think breeding in general is really, really weird. I used to breed of being a dreamer... Oops, turn that around! I dreamed of being a breeder when I was younger, but then I got the big, fat lump of fur and fat that is in the below picture. I feel about mutts like I do about Texas, now. "They are better than EVERYTHING!" "In YOU're opinion" "In EVERYONES opinion! *breathes heavily right in your face*" ".... Yeah. I'm just gonna.... Go.... Somewhere else..... Bye" >.< I'm to hyper right now to say anything smart. I should, ah, go now.
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| Yes. I totally am with rainsmom on this one. My toy poodle, Tanner, was being used to make "Jackapoos" at a puppy mill. Literally, he was locked up in a pen with a bunch of Jack Russels.When we got him, he was COVERED in bites and scraches. We brought him home, fixed him, groomed him, and now he's a happy senior dog. Anyway, Mixed Breeds are cool. My Alaskan Malamute is probably a little bit German Shepherd.
I will always love my Kodiak Solomon.He is the best Alaskan Malamute a person could ever want   A dog sits and waits in the cold autumn sun
Too faithful to leave, to frightened to run
He’s been here for days, with nothing to do
But sit in the road and wait for you
He can’t understand why you left him that day
He thought you and He were stopping to play
He’s sure you’ll come back, and that is why he stays
How long will he suffer? How many days go by?
His legs have grown weak. His throat parched and dry
He’s sick from hunger and falls with a sigh
He lays down his head, and closes his eyes
I wish you could see, how a waiting dog dies  
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Ouch, MR, that's rough! Poor pooch.
Yeah, rereading this, it's not the message I wanted to say. LOL.
I wrote a paper on this and it was MUCH better, I think I'll find it and post it on here. Someday.
(PS. I hate designer dogs. Puggles SCARE me O_o)
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| I personally am not a fan of breeding dogs because there are sooo many homeless dogs out there that need homes. Breeding just adds to the amount of dogs that need homes. If you've ever been to an dog shelter it's easy to see that the dogs there are just begging for someone to adopt them. I've written a report on it too and the statistics are absolutly absurd of the number of dogs that are killed each year just because people have not wanted a mixed breed and don't want to take the time to wait for someone to adopt one. I adopted my dog from a shelter and he is my absolute best friend. It kills me each time I think about how he would have been killed if I wouldn't have adopted him.
 
Adopt a Dog, Save a Life... 
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| I love your don't buy when dogs are in shelters argument. There are so many wonderful dogs that are put down it is very, very hard to buy from a breeder. Having said that, many dogs in shelters have all kinds of health issues and aggression/obedience problems ffomm @#$%#$@ owners its sad. I personally believe that a shelter dog is more money down the road than pure breeds, but I don't mind paying. It's these idiot adopters, who I am partially and discriminately gratefull to that think the shelter dog is cheaper. As far as reputable breeder? God bless them all. They are based on love for their breed and a conviction in their beliefs. Was it not a breeder that brought the noble DOG out of the wolf? My situation is between these extremes (don't ask me about puppy mills, who are one step above Michael Vick.) I rescued two Great Danes and neither one fit the AKC code. And they were the most phenomenal dogs I have ever owned. The problem is 1) idiot backyard breeders, 2) fools that buy these dogs. I am sorry if I am overly emotional about this issue but my local Humane Society takes in 12,000 dogs per year. I am crying now and will stop. Thanks for opening this thread.
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