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My neighber has a dog named buddy and he has an eltrical colar thing and it got me to think are they harmful to dogs? It just seems like it would be pretty painful to get shocked... Do you think they are?

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| They can be if not used properly. I personally don't like them. If you have one that is too large for that dog and up all the way, it is indeed harmful. We have a neighbor that used it to keep his do in the yard, but they didn't train him at all so he kepted going over the border and getting shocked. It soon came so often that the dog learned to ignore it. One day the dog was smelling real bad and they took him into the vet and the collar had burned a hole in its NECK!
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They can be if not used properly. I personally don't like them. If you have one that is too large for that dog and up all the way, it is indeed harmful. We have a neighbor that used it to keep his do in the yard, but they didn't train him at all so he kepted going over the border and getting shocked. It soon came so often that the dog learned to ignore it. One day the dog was smelling real bad and they took him into the vet and the collar had burned a hole in its NECK! oh now that dose sound bad, ouch! but my neighbors dog is trained well so he dosent keep on going over the boarder. hes so cute, today, well actualy like 20 minutes ago i took annie for a walk and we walked pased his house and he had is coler on and he was barking at us trying to follow us, lol..

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as myblacklab said they can be harmful if they are used improperly, but then again so can any training equipment. Whether it hurts or not depends on the level they have it set. It can range from a tingle or an actual shock. They were originally meant to be used for hunting dogs to stop them from going after the wrong type of game. Now people use it because they think it will give fast results with little effort from them. I am not against using an e-collar if it is used properly and not just a lazy way of training your dog.
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ya very true, thanks! If some people are so lazy that they cant even train it they should just not bother getting one!

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I'm not a big fan of shock collars but I'm not completely against one....We had one on Danni for a little while it was more for training not an electric fence and we kept it on a low setting because she seems to have a really bad habit of pushing the door open with her nose and running off and not coming back for a while (But she always stays around the neighborhood....Scaredy cat )We haven't used one in a while though and the other day when she got away I called her and she came home Good Danni!!
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YES!!! A lot of people say that they arn't though. The pain and damage the collars do are not visible although the dog may yelp. The only pain you can see is the dog yelping but really the problem is that the collar is killing nerves in the neck. It also is damaging tissues and cells. I don't recommend these collars, using one of them is just a quick fix to get results. Besides it isn't fun for you or your dog. Training is supposed to be fun and the shock collars aren't fun.
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GSDlover1 (4/5/2009) YES!!! A lot of people say that they arn't though. The pain and damage the collars do are not visible although the dog may yelp. The only pain you can see is the dog yelping but really the problem is that the collar is killing nerves in the neck. It also is damaging tissues and cells. I don't recommend these collars, using one of them is just a quick fix to get results. Besides it isn't fun for you or your dog. Training is supposed to be fun and the shock collars aren't fun.
Killing there nerves in the neck, and damaging tissue and cells is something I have never heard of about shock collars. Do you have any research backing this?
Like rainsmom said, any training tool can be harmful if used improperly.

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GSDlover1 (4/5/2009) YES!!! A lot of people say that they arn't though. The pain and damage the collars do are not visible although the dog may yelp. The only pain you can see is the dog yelping but really the problem is that the collar is killing nerves in the neck. It also is damaging tissues and cells. I don't recommend these collars, using one of them is just a quick fix to get results. Besides it isn't fun for you or your dog. Training is supposed to be fun and the shock collars aren't fun.
May I suggest reading Turbo's post on this subject?
board.dogchannel.com/Topic52565-38-1.aspx
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| If the dog is yelping it's set way too high. They are adjustable, you know, and properly used it feels like licking a 9 volt. Set on on low and trigger it on your forearm, that's what it feels like. I use the Sport Dog SD 1800 and use it on level 2 or 3, out of 10. The higher levels are for serious 'breaking', like if your dog is attacking livestock. The lower levels are for most training purposes. Set it only as high as it needs to be for the dog to respond. Do that, and it is a gentle and humane correction.
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