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Posted 1/14/2009 4:25:17 PM


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Hi.I am thinking of entering my dog in a dog show.Now I know what most people are gonna say how do u know your dog is show quality.Well my vet is a corgi breeder and said he is a great looking.But he is more educated in breeding so I was wondering if anyone knows anything about this sprt and if you do is it a good thing to get into or not.Thanks

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I will be going to my first Ukc show in April! The best thing to do is find someone that is willing to help you get started. I found a sheltie breeder that lives near me, and even though Belle is not from one of her dogs she is helping me. I would suggest you start teaching your dog to stack and learn the grooming techniques for your breed. Akc has some good pointers for first timers. just remember to relax and have fun. Oh I am assuming you are talking about Akc shows? Ukc showing is much more relaxed and no professional handlers are allowed or grooming products like chalk! Its a great place to start showing as its not as political as Akc. you can go to Ukc's website and download a single dog registration form its $28 to register your dog

 
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Posted 1/14/2009 4:56:03 PM


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Thanks i am going to do that right now and I was also wondering if anyone knows where to get supplies

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Posted 1/15/2009 4:04:05 AM


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cherrybrook .com has a lot of supplies. also there are usually vendors at shows that sell stuff, and ebay sometimes has stuff.

 
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Posted 1/15/2009 5:47:45 AM
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I would start by seeking the guidance of a trainer in your area.  Make sure it is one with Experience in conformation handling!  Do a search on the internet for "conformation classes" or "Show Handling Classes", or call the obedience instructors/schools in your area and ask if they offer them or can refer you.  You can also contact your local kennel club.  Search for kennel clubs at  

If neither is available, contact the National Breed Club for your breed and look for breeders or mentors in your area (some offer "mentors").  As for breeders, some may be willing to help but others may not. 

For a Corgi, you want a thin metal or nylon slip (choke) collar.  As thin/refined as you can find.  Cherry Brook which someone else posted a link for, will have these.  I would reccomend chain only because it slides more easily through a thicker coat.  They will have fine jewelers link chain collars or snake chain collars.  I reccomend the fine link, they don't break as easily as the snake chain link.  Do Not pick up a regular chain choke collar...they are too big/bulky for conformation.  You can get silver or gold.  If yours is a sable Corgi, go with gold.  You want to match/blend in with the coat.  If it's a tri, you can do either.  If you go with a nylon slip instead, you want to match the dogs coat and there are plenty of shades of browns as well as white and black to choose from.  If your dog is a correct sized, adult, Male Corgi you will probably need a 20"-22" collar.  Females  18-20".  You want the collar to be bigger than the way you would size a regular collar or an obedience collar.  You need to be able to lift the collar off the dogs neck and put your hand under it to hold the dog in the stack.  I Highly reccomend the "loop" or "Handlers" leads rather than a lead with a snap.  Snaps can come unsnapped unexpectedly and suddenly you have a loose dog!  The Loop or handlers lead gets threaded through the collar ring and the collar/lead become one piece.  For a Corgi you'll probably want a 36" long show lead.  Maybe a 4 foot, though I find novices have a harder time handling "excess" leash and do better with a slightly shorter lead than what an experienced handler may use.  Again, match the lead to the dog and it's collar.  You want the collar and lead to "blend in to the background" and basically be "invisible" so as not to detract from the dog.  I give you all these specifics as I've had so many novices come into my handling classes with incorrect equipment that someone in a pet store reccomended to them.  Our local stores have a very limited selection of show supplies and staff who know Nothing about showing.  Other breeds may use a martingale style or a rescoe style lead, but most these days show on a slip collar/lead combination. 

It would also be wise for you to get a copy of the AKC standard and start to study it inside and out.  You need to know the standard in order to understand what is being judged in the ring and in order to evaluate your dog effectively.  While your dog may be just a pet, there is nothing wrong with giving showing a try...except if you are going to be disapointed when you don't win.  I have had a few students get started with "pets" and then once they learned, they acquired a show quality dog to continue on with.  But they understood what they had and simply looked at it as a fun learning experience.  Others walk in wiht a pet, and get dispointed when someone else honestly tells them their dog isn't suitable.  Just recognize which type of person you are, and make sure you have an accurate assessment of your dog.  With all respect to your Veterinarian...unless he/she has shown his own dogs, knowledge of soundness and show qualities may not be there.   There are plenty of beautiful dogs who are physically unsound and/or not suitable for showing.  OTOH, you have a Corgi...and my experience with Corgi's (I assume you have a Pembroke Welsh Corgi?) is that even the pets are usually fairly sound and attractive, and even the ones from poor and/or pet breeders are usually the same.  They might not have the "extra" flashiness of a show quality dog, but you shouldn't look too out of place in the breed ring either.  So I think it's great you want to learn and give showing a try!  If you find your dog isn't cut out for the show ring, you can always get involved in Obedience or Agility!  Corgi's are great at both! 

OH, and somehow I totally forget to mention your best resource...Your dogs breeder!  Assuming your dog came from a knowledgeable/responsible breeder, he/she will be able to help you on your way to showing your dog and should be able to provide you with an assessment.  Or if the breeder isn't in your area, they should still have contacts in your breed and can refer you to someone who will help.  Definitely if you are going to exhibit your dog, the breeder should be made aware of it.  Most will welcome the opportunity to assist you.  BTW, I do assume your dog has full AKC registration?  Dogs who are on limited registration will need the breeder to lift the "limitation" before being able to be shown. 

Finally, someone above mentioned UKC shows.  UKC shows are more laid back.  They also have a lower level of competition in many ways.  They can be fun in that regards as it is easier to succeed.  However, they are also fewer and farther between which has always been another downside for me.  OH, and they don't allow bait/toys in the ring.  That's neither here nor there IMO...except that if your dog isn't trained yet, you will want to wait to show UKC until your dog is trained well.  You want your dog to be up and happy while showing!  :-)

If for some reason you can't find assistance in your area, you can also start wtih books.  I think it was Caroline Coile who wrote a book called "Show Me!".  There are other books on the market too which will help get you started.   

Good luck!   

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I will be going to my first Ukc show in April! The best thing to do is find someone that is willing to help you get started. I found a sheltie breeder that lives near me, and even though Belle is not from one of her dogs she is helping me. I would suggest you start teaching your dog to stack and learn the grooming techniques for your breed. Akc has some good pointers for first timers. just remember to relax and have fun. Oh I am assuming you are talking about Akc shows? Ukc showing is much more relaxed and no professional handlers are allowed or grooming products like chalk! Its a great place to start showing as its not as political as Akc. you can go to Ukc's website and download a single dog registration form its $28 to register your dog

Are you really going to that show? in Atlanta? So am I!!! I'll Be showing one of our females

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Posted 4/6/2009 4:28:45 AM


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No not in Atlanta, in Ohio. Atlanta is kind of a long trip for me, and we are just getting started so we are sticking with small local shows for now. good luck though with your girl!!

 
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Posted 4/6/2009 7:31:49 AM


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Oh, well, good luck to you!!! It's wierd how they're having a few at the same time, there's one in Texas going on at the same time, too! lol

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Posted 4/16/2009 8:24:11 AM


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Hey! I am going to the one in TX! Well, I would recommend for you to go to a conformation class in your area and then practice with him day and night. It may be a little harder to train a dog like a Corgi that it would to train a Pit Bull (or a Cane Corso or Sheltie, for that matter) but it is very possible and NEVER give up! Always cheer yourself, even when you feel like your brain is about to burst. Smile and stay cheerful around your dog if you cannot at any other time. A good place for show supplies is PetEdge. They have good show collars and leashes, and that is where I get all of mine. I would recommend a gold choke chain for your Corgi because he is tan and white, while as in a black and tan Corgi I would use silver. Hope this helps! And welcome to the show ring! (Also, be careful when you go to shows, never leave water or food down and dont accept treats from anyone unless you saw them give on to their dog first. Some of the people can be really nasty and try to posion your dog. Always keep a careful eye on your dog for that matter and never leave it crated alone, I have heard some horro stories. Once a Rhodesian Ridgeback got its tail cut off! So be very CAREFUL!!!) |

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