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Ilovemax, do you realize that separation anxiety is a very serious dog behavior issue that usually manifests as a dog displaying nervousness, self mutilation or destructive behavior? Unless you are a dog behaviorist, I would be careful throwing those kinds of terms around. Andrew did not display any of these things. He merely went to the door and stood there. He wasn't panting, pacing, clawing or scratching at it to get out. He just stood silently waiting, and there is really nothing wrong with that. I think if any of the dogs had been stuck in the house while their owner was outside they would have done the same if the person trying to work with them wasn't maintaining their interest. What do you think Presley would have done if Travis went outside and he was left inside with one of the others and they just wanted to sit quietly and pet him for an hour? Ummmmm, you can better believe that he would have tried to go outside too. And I bet he wouldn't have just stood at the door. I bet he would have jumped on it and tried to push it open, started barking, whining or all kinds of things, none of which Andrew did. Andrew was the only dog that was required to stay inside while Laurie was outside. JD did have Presley inside and was playing with him, but he also had Presley on a leash. I don't know why he would expect Andrew to be off leash inside and chase balls! That's just ridiculous to me!
Incidentally, I was lucky enough to attend a charity event a couple of weeks ago in Virginia and Laurie & Andrew, Teresa & Leroy and Laura & Preston were there. There were over 100 people there - with their dogs! All three contestants were there with their dogs all off leash mingling with the crowd - yes, including Andrew! By the way, I seriously doubt Presley could be off leash in a large public place with a lot of people and dogs. In fact, I laughed because quite a few times Laurie had to find Andrew!! I'd see her walking around looking for him! Usually he was off sitting in someone's lap or getting treats from someone, etc. And Laurie's husband was there too, and Andrew seemed to love him just as much as Laurie, so I think he will be fine. You don't have to worry about him should anything happen to Laurie. I think they have at least 5-6 other dogs. He is very well adjusted and I'm sure will be well taken care of! JD and Travis just did not know how to relate to Andrew. It is clear that neither are used to connecting with a dog other than play. Some dogs just are not play and toy motivated. Teresa had the right idea. She just sat with Andrew and held him and he was fine. I guess JD and Travis do not feel comfortable just holding and loving on a dog. That's really a shame because dogs have so much more to offer than just chasing balls and catching frisbees.
The most interesting thing of all is that if Andrew were a Golden Retriever or German Shepherd I don't think anyone would be saying he was "too attached." I have been to many, many obedience trials over the years and I encourage you to go because you will see the exact same attention and focus on the handler with the top dogs competing there as Andrew displays. In fact, the best obedience dogs NEVER take their eyes of their handlers! That kind of focus and attention on the handler is essential in obedience and many obedience handlers would kill for a dog like Andrew!
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| Posted 9/7/2008 7:05:16 AM |
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I enjoy reading your posts, Malteseluver, and I agree with many many things you say...but often I find myself wondering if you ARE Laurie - You seem to connect with her and Andrew on such a personal level.
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| Posted 9/7/2008 2:13:14 PM |
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Now that you menchion that 2brown, I wonder if she is laurie too! lol!
Well, I think the reason most people are wanting travis and presley to win is NOT because of how well trained his dog is, or how the dog looks, it is all about the owner. If the owners personallity isn't so great, the dog isn't favored. After all the money is going to the human not the dog. People want to see the nice person win it. So really its more-so the human than the dog. That is why I want Travis to win, not because his dog but because of him as a person. He is a farm boy, nice kind and he seems like somebody I would want to hang with, I think he would spend the money with a good sense. Laurie seems like she is all about herself and she is like Andrew, shutting themselves away from the real world. I never seen laurie really try to connect with the other people. She never wanted to help the other team mates unless she was getting something out of it. That right there is not only being selfish but also you won't get that far that way. I seen Travis help other people like Beacons owner and stuff and look how far Travis made it! Its all about the person you are in the inside and how you treat other people. JD isn't liked as well because he is very arrogent and thinks he is better than everyone else. People don't like that so that is why not many people are rooting for him.
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| Posted 9/7/2008 2:16:42 PM |
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Agreed and very well said I know if travis wins he will definatley use the money for good and spend some on his dog not saying the others don't but he is a good person as of what we can see and he has a really strong relatioship with presley as i said not saying the others don't
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| Posted 9/7/2008 2:22:57 PM |
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Just wondering earlier in the show you said how terrible the show was but yet you even go and see all them and somehow found out they were doing the event which i never heard of but once again i do't look into any of it and won't until the show cares more about the dogs saftey. But just wondering where you found out and know if they are doing any more just want to know more about it and what they were rasing money for. Anyway why did they go to an event before the finalie anyway i mean i know it was reacorded a while ago but you think they would wait but i guess they don't always. I would also never just let my dog walk around of leash with that many people I don't know expecially as you said luarie had to look for andrew you never know what kind of people are there I wouldn't let Max leave my eyesight but i guess everyone has their opions but i would never do that for Max's saftey. And i wouldn't want him get fed so many treats without me knowing the dogs could get sick later.
i also just wanted to meantion how you said if Andrew was a golden retriver or German Shepard people wouldn't say he was to attached to Laurie but it doesn't matter but it has nothing to do with the breed. Anway thats all i have to say
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| Posted 9/7/2008 4:32:30 PM |
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I've thought that a couple of times, myself, 2browndogs
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| Posted 9/7/2008 7:39:21 PM |
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| You're right! I am very in touch with Andrew! I breed Maltese and live in the same area as both of them. I've seen the two of them in action away from the cameras so it does bother me when I see all these misconceptions being thrown around. I have to keep reminding myself that they are in the top three which ain't too shabby. And if they were as bad as some try to make them out to be, certainly they wouldn't have lasted so long. Apparently Alan and the other judges must have seen things in them that the producers aren't showing.
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| Posted 9/7/2008 8:09:12 PM |
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| Starry boy speaking of misconceptions, people don't realize that Laurie owns a very popular dog training and daycare facility here in VA. She is also an AKC and APDT rally judge, a Delta Society Pet Partner evaluator and does a lot of charity work and therapy work not only with Andrew but also with her Dalmatian Tucker who is 10 years old. So, she's hardly "cut herself off" from the world! lol In fact, the charity event for Friends Fur Life Pet Sanctuary where Laura and Teresa participated was held at her facility Pup 'N Iron. She was up in NJ this weekend at Fidos Festival and she and Andrew are going to the Pentagon this week for the 9/11 memorial. In addition to being a therapy team, she and Andrew also do canine crisis response to help people through traumatic events. Most of the dog professionals and dog show exhibitors forums I participate on actually favor Laurie and Andrew over Travis and Presley, but I think the forums like this one with strictly pet owners seem to favor Travis and Presley. It's all about perspective.
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| Posted 9/8/2008 3:53:22 AM |
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I actually favor andrew, not only is he cute but he is very well trained! it is hard to find a dog espiecally a toy breed that is trained that well (at least in my area) they are usually treated as a fashion acsessory. I didnt think he showed any sign of seperation anxiety he just wanted to be with his owner. I bet my shelties would have done the same thing.
 
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| Posted 9/8/2008 6:42:47 AM |
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True, but we are not seeing how people act outside of the show or what they are involved in outside of the show. We are only seeing how the people on the show act among each other and stuff. Laurie seems like she would cut throught to anyone who might win. She is all game and in a sense that is good but in another sense that is bad. It is okay to want to win the game but you shouldn't go to extreme levels to get there. You end up faltering then winning. I've not seen Laurie really get to know or hang with the other people on the show. She seems to distance herself from the other team members. She might not be like that in real life but nobody is basing there opinions on how they act outside of the show. Travis could be the meaniest person outside of the show and wouldn't know but because he is showing kindness, getting to know the other members, not afraid to help them ou,t people like him better. He isn't all in this to win. Sure he wants to win, but he don't seem like the type that would cut throught to win it. She is a little to serious for my taste. There is a point where you have to be serious but there is a point where being overly serious turns into a bad thing. I think she is over serious and she isn't really having fun or enjoying the whole experance. If you break things down, it isn't really about winning the title "Greatest American Dog" at all. It is about meeting awesome new people who share the same things as you which would be the love of dogs and having a better bonding experience with your dog. It is about learning new things and just having fun! If you are all for winning and you are not taking anything out of it, then you shouldn't diserve to win at all.
I would also like to point out that, Andrew did well at the sit challange and the other challanges that just consist of "stay" and "sit" because, it is a little dog and it is also a lazy dog. The other active dogs there aren't the best at that because they are not as lazy. Throughout the whole show, all i've really seen Andrew do was sit around. That is why most people found it amazing that he could climb up that wooden plack. Do I think Andrew walked up that because he is well trained? Nope. Andrew proved that he cannot be without Laurie for a long amout of time, so no duh the dog ran up the plank to get to Laurie. If Laurie wouldn't have said a word Andrew still would of ran up there to be with her.
To your comments about Presley not being that well trained, I will tell you for a puppy of his age, that is the best and most well trained i've ever seen at that age. Most people just begin training at Presleys age which he is like 6-8 months if I am correct. That is amazing. So, you have to excuse Presley for some of his stuff and mistakes. He was better behaved then Elvis or Becan who were both older than him.
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