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rainsmom (8/28/2008)
I was sorry to see bill and star leave, but I know it had to be a very hard descision. I thought the challange was very hard and was impressed by the number of dogs that did make the jump! I feel sorry for J.D. and galaxy I have a dog that had a very similar limp and it turned out to be soft tissue damage of the shoulder, and that type of injury and it takes months to heal! I hope he gets better soon. also what would you judges have Teresa do to stop Leroy's barking? As the owner of 3 shelties I know how much herding dogs like to bark, and while I think some of the barking can be controlled, it is hard to stop an excited dog from barking. you see it all the time in agility a lot of the bc's and shelties will bark through the whole course. I feel as long as he is doing what he is supposed to, and he is having fun let him bark! I think Travis and Presley have really improved since the beggining of the show. they seem to be better bonded now! I am really impressed with Laurie and Andrew. It's great to see a toy breed like andrew actually listen and be well trained. too many people turn these smart toy breeds into spoiled brats that no one wants to be around.
I love th show and hope their will be many more of them!Great comments! Thanks for writing. It pained us to send Bill and Star home... did you see how depressed we looked? It's only going to get harder from here on in. We like these people and these dogs. Yes, Andrew is an amazing little dog. Your comments about Leroy's barking are bang on. Wendy was bothered by Leroy's barking from the very beginning. But Herding breeds like Border Collies, Shelties and Australian Shepherds bark. They're excited, they're animated, they're working. So much footage was shot and had to be edited out for time. Lots of good advice from Victoria and me never made it into the episodes.
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Allan Reznik
Editor-at-Large, Dog World & Dog Fancy
Editor-in-Chief, Dogs in Review
Dog Breed and Dog Show Expert on DogChannel
Judge on "Greatest American Dog," CBS TV
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| Posted 8/28/2008 7:32:01 PM |
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I once again agree with starry*boy
Ah i should stop qouting because once again it didn't work i should know better by now all well i will write it again when i get a minute
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| Posted 8/28/2008 11:16:24 PM |
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I usually love watching this show with my husband and our 2 cockapoos. But, I was very unhappy with the difficulty of the challenge. It was way toooooooo high and I respected that 2 owners did not make their dogs "fly"! Galaxy was probably injured because of this challenge and my dogs are worth more than $250,000 and getting injured on a reality show. Andrew was amazing with the elephant and during the final challenge.
But the show made me feel very SAD tonight and think maybe someone just doesn't care about the dogs possibly being injured. We'll continue watching but, I won't if stunts like this one are repeated!
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| Posted 8/30/2008 6:53:21 AM |
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| Allan, you seem to have a reverence for Andrew the Maltese, woo hoo! However, do you feel enough modifications were made during all the challenges, particularly the physical ones, to provide a level playing field for the small dogs? It seems that they have had the most difficult time in this competition. I think it's very telling that it took until the 8th episode for a small dog to even win a bone challenge, and Andrew is the only one who has received special recognition. While Andrew is still there, there seems to be more people doubting him and his worthiness than any of the other dogs. When he won special recognition you had people questioning it, more than I've seen anyone question anyone else's win, and even now with him holding a PERFECT stay despite the distraction of an elephant and scaling the same length wall as the bigger dogs (despite him being 1/4 their size), you still have people saying he should have been sent home. It just seems to me that the little dogs were placed in this competition for show only, to give the appearance of being for all dogs, when in actuality it's pretty clear that they were never really given a fair chance. I would love to hear your thoughts on this.
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| Posted 8/30/2008 4:22:40 PM |
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starry*boy (8/27/2008)[/b]Okay, this week I don't have to much to say. Other then I had tears in my eyes to see bill and star go home. Sad moment right there.
I know exactly what you mean Bill and star have such a great relationship and star is a very well trained dog thank to a great trainer Bill
Second of all, It was the judges who told Bill last week to not "push" his dog to do the challanges and to call it quits when he feels like it is to much for his dog. So what does Bill do? Makes sure that the "ramp" will be okay for his dog and he don't keep trying to get his dog to jump and he makes sure that it isnt over his dogs limits and he still gets heck for it. That there is "sad" and the judges fault. They shouldn't give advice out and then give them heck for it later on. Unfair.
I have to agree while i do see where the judges are coming from Bill did the right thing he didn't push Star and if he did who knows what could have happened say he made star go up the steper hill Star could have tried to run up and fall and get hurt
Wendy is always fast to say how she "hates" Leroys barking, well if she hates it so much why don't she give her pointers on how to control the barking? Obviously the owner don't know how to control the barking. I think Wendy can be nice but she can also be stuck up and wishy washy in what she says. I really wish she would learn to "push" her stuck up nose down.
Once again agreed. not to offend anyone but she is definatley my least favorite judge from attitude and the way she judges which i think is mostley because of her attitude. I think it would be good for her to at least say try many ways and work with Leroy slowing to corrct his barking.
I think Travis took the comments from the judges the wrong way. I felt like everything the judges said was true and now it is down to the nitty-gritty he was worse then Leroy in the challange because leroy did sit and stay at the tower. I would like to see in the next season maybe once they get down that low, they make it a bottom "2" instead of 3 because that makes no sense.
I also felt what the judges said was true it was not Travis best week though overall i feel Travis Presley have a better realationship and Travis a a better trained dog. Though i did feel all the dogs did a greta job in the challange
I have this bad feeling that Galxey will be going home due to the injery. I feel bad for the poor dog. I do think that in an event of a challange injery that pulls them out, they should get some kind of reward or something because it isn't fair. Other then that, I have a feeling that Travis will be going home.
I hope not and if he does have to go home i feel it is most likey the shows fault because the injury was most likey from "flying" just like a human when they pull a muscle or something like that right after they don't always feel it later they do thats why he ran around after but i still feel it was from "flying"
For the bone sweet, I was glad that Andrew one because Travis had one it so many times, let someone who hasn't had the chance to have it yet, have it.
Me too I have felt Andrew has been doing much better then in the past but still feel if judge overall Presley and for the most part the other dogs are better trained presley just had and off week with sitting and staying while Andrew had a good week and can sit and stay very well I am proud of little Andrew though and i do feel andrew deserves to be in the top four
Quoted Starry*Boy but qoute doesn't always work so i had to i guess you could say un-quote it lol
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| Posted 8/30/2008 4:35:39 PM |
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I also wanted to say i am not to happy with the challenges. For example this weeks challenges. Yes, the elephants walking towards and charging at the dogs was a good way to see which dogs would sit and stay but it was VERY unsafe sure the elephant it "trained" and nothing happened but elephants are wild animals you never know what will happen. Think about some chimps and apes that were well "trained" and ended up serverly hurting someone and just like at say sea world shamu the killer whale has serverley i think maybe even killed not sure people because it's a wild animal and not meant to being doing things like that. Animals are unpredictable at any given moment the elephant may not have stopped and hurt one of the dogs possible killing them. I hate to say but it could happen. And having the dogs "fly" yes i understand thats what they do in movies but the fact is all these dogs aren't movie stars the wiggle a bit because they were not fully trained or comfortable with it. Thats why Galaxy was hurt and may have to go home. Even if the dogs were trained movie stars just from going down the zip line the way it holds them they could get hurt even if it has to do with the way the dogs jumps down.
Anyway if the show goes on for another season I hope the people who make the challenges either think about the dogs saftey or you hire someone who will at this point though i do feel many people who work with the show care about dogs and they are intentionally doing anything that could possibly injure the dog i feel the show is unorganized and i would not bring Max on it. I do think if their is another season the show will learn from it's last season and be more organized and it will be better because the show it not terrible but with some adjustments it could be much better. Thank you for reading!
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| Posted 8/30/2008 5:38:01 PM |
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| I was appalled by the challenge presented in this week's show. Expecting dogs to be harnessed and jump to their owner was totally unreasonable and unsafe as evidenced by Galaxy's injury. I think the creator of the challenge should pay Galaxy's vet bills. I also think the judges should stop contradicting themselves. One week, they don't want the dogs stressed. The next week, the challenge offers ridiculous stress. How that jump showed anything about training is beyond me! I would like to see Wendy Diamond's little dog make that jump. Any dog that made the jump did it out of FEAR, not training. Come on judges, get your act together. Bill made the correct decision not to stress his dog by taking it up the easier ramp and not forcing it to jump and he got "nailed" for it. Good job Bill!!!! Why did they even have 2 ramps. My frustration over this show is mounting, so I will end.
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| Posted 8/31/2008 9:05:01 AM |
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| Presley better trained than Andrew? A 1 1/2 year old Boxer who has never received any training prior to this competition is better than a 5 yr old Maltese who has both his AKC AND UKC CD's, his AKC Rally Excellent title, is a nationally certified therapy dog, and has gone High In Trial in an AKC obedience trial? Seriously? Presley is doing a great job, especially for his young age. And perhaps you like him better than Andrew or even that you find him more deserving, would rather him win, etc, etc. That's fine. But to say he is better trained is ludicrous.
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| Posted 8/31/2008 2:41:41 PM |
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I did not know Andrew has both his AKC AND UKC CD's, his AKC Rally Excellent title, is a nationally certified therapy dog, and has gone High In Trial in an AKC obedience trial Most likey due to not being the most intrested in the show due to many problems like the lack of saftey with the dogs you do bring up some good points and we do all have our opinons i do feel other then andrew being able to sit still and behave for the age difference presley is doing very well and they are both pretty even when it comes to being trained but i do feel presley has been trained to do more then andrew and i feel if presley goes through training to be a therapy dog when he gets a bit older he would pass. though all the dogs have their ups and downs when it comes to training
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| Posted 8/31/2008 5:51:08 PM |
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IlovmydogMax you write: "but i do feel presley has been trained to do more then andrew"
Like what?
For a CD a dog must demonstrate the ability to heel on leash through a pattern of left turns, right turns, about turns, halting at various different points with automatic straight sit in heel position. They must also demonstrate the ability to heel with halts and automatic sits in a figure eight around two humans. Oh, and then they must be able to do the heeling patter OFF LEASH as well. They must also do a stand/stay while the judge comes and examines them, touching them on their head, middle section and rear - without moving at all, not even a paw. Oh, and then they must do a recall where the handler leaves them in a sit/stay then walks 30 feet away and calls them. The dog must sit front. And then must do a finish either to the right or the left back into heel position. In UKC obedience the recall must be over a jump. Oh, and also, the handler can only use a hand signal OR a verbal command, not both. Oh, and they can only give the command once. If the dog doesn't do it, they automatically fail.
Rally Excellent is entirely OFF LEASH and the dog must heel around a course of 15 - 20 stations with various obedience exercises, too many to go through here. Feel free to look it up. My point is, there is NO WAY Presley is trained to do MORE THINGS than Andrew as you said. No possible way. I don't know why you would even think such a thing unless you have some inside information I don't have.
All this being said, this competition is not supposed to be about the dog who is trained to do the most things anyway. It's supposed to be about the owner and dog's relationship. Travis and Presley are cute together and he is doing a great job with Presley. It's obvious you like that team better and that's fine, but there's no reason to say that Presley is better trained than Andrew to make that point. But you did call it right. I think Presley is definitely on the right track and WHEN HE IS OLDER he, too, may be able to accomplish the things that Andrew and the other older dogs have.
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