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Posted 7/25/2008 7:11:49 PM
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What I want to know is "What exactly is Dog Fancy going to do about this"?   Are the editor and staff preparing a strong media surge against AR groups and anti-breeding bills.  Are they contacting the news media and television networks to share their concerns muchless their support of the sport of dogs and responsible dog ownership in the United States?   A simple typed apology to the readers does little to combat the huge growing problem in this country.  Is Dog Fancy quite content to let the AR groups put them totally out of business?  After all, in any state these new anti-breeding laws pass there will be a significant drop in dog ownership and participation of dog related activities.  People will hardly need a subscription to a "Dog" magazine when dogs are banned.  Advertisers will not need to advertise products for pets or show dogs and Dog Fancy will no longer be the sucessful publication it has been for years.

So, What exactly does Dog Fancy plan to do to fight back for its readers and its own existance?   Anything?  Some states plan to limit all types of pets and the number people can own.  So will we need Cat Fancy, Bird Fancy, etc., etc.   I think not.  Too bad the AR people are so big and scary that no politicians and no business owners regardless of its size has the courage to fight them. 

Why doesn't Dog fancy publish the actual facts about the number of animals these AR groups actually rescue and find new homes for compared to the number the authorize euthanization for.  Where does all the money donated by misguided pet owners go to?  Its not going to the animals.  But these articles are not interesting enough regardless of the facts, so Dog Fancy and all the Dog related businesses will just sit back afraid to speak.  We all read these articles on the internet, but no one with a large voice dare speak. Sad.

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Posted 7/25/2008 7:17:34 PM
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Dear Editor, talk to larger audiances that are not strictly pro-Peta/HSUS.  Talk to the world!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   When you talk to Peta only their supporters will read your thoughts and dismiss them.   Shine the light of day on this issue in our county, encourage other publications and dog related sports to do the same.    Make some Noise!!!!!!   Please, before it is way too late.
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Posted 7/25/2008 7:21:08 PM
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You are so right.  Dog Fancy should publish your post in a full-page ad.

Maybe they cannot save our way of life, maybe not even their own, but they cannot afford not to try.

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Posted 7/29/2008 6:29:32 PM


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What does buying the "bag" mean? What happens?

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Posted 8/2/2008 8:59:07 AM
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I also listened to the "message". Only if you are in animal RESCUE will you really GET IT! It IS true that for every animal one BUYS another DIES.....at the pounds, because there is just NOT enough homes for them all! I know of ONE breeder alone asking "$1200.00" for a puppy, & that does NOT include spay/neuter! The pounds are FULL of puppies just as wonderful, & the cost to adopt is only about $100.00, AND that includes s/n, shots worming ect! If some one is looking for a specific "breed" THEY are at the pound too!! If you take the time to search for what you are looking for you will be surprised at what you will find at a pound! AND it is a GOOD feeling to save a life at the same time! If one saw HOW MANY cats & dogs are KILLED at pounds EVERY day & tossed in black bags in the garbage LIKE GARBAGE, it would make you sick! The majority of pets adopted out by rescue leagues come from pounds, & they make wonderful pets if just given a chance! We must also remember...... "YOU DON'T NEED A PEDIGREE TO BE A "BEST FRIEND"!! 

  

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Posted 9/6/2008 2:39:23 PM


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I agree with this comment. I have two wonderful,smart and healthy dogs. All rescued.


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Posted 9/6/2008 3:14:25 PM


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Let me first say that I am all for shelters and rescues. I support them 100%.
However, we also need REPUTABLE breeders, who really try to benefit the dog breeds, to keep the breeds healthy. While I tell people to please look at a shelter or rescue before a breeder, no one should have to feel ashamed for supporting a breeder, so long as it's a good breeder. There are a few cases where it is best if someone buys from a breeder. (Well-bred Border Collies are best for the first-time BC owner, etc.)
What I hate is when people say that "shelter dogs deserve homes more than dogs
from breeders". No, ALL dogs deserve homes equally, but shelter dogs do NEED homes more than dogs from breeders. There is a big difference between deserve and need. I have adopted dogs from shelters, and I have bought dogs from breeders. I am ashamed to say that they were not good breeders, but I enjoyed the dogs nonetheless.
I hope to get my next dog from a reputable breeder. Personally, I haven't found much difference between a shelter dog and a dog from a breeder. Dogs are great pets no matter where they come from. This is not to say that I advocate buying dogs from pet stores. No way, I don't want to support a puppy mill. While the dogs in pet stores deserve homes as much as the next dog, I realize that you save more doggie lives by NOT buying from pet stores. I'd rather save a bunch of lives by saying no than save one life only to encourage puppy mills and make more suffer. The more people who refuse to buy from pet stores, the faster we can stop puppy mills.



Besides that, what do I have to say? I say PETA is crap. Period. My speech is over.


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Posted 9/6/2008 3:32:44 PM


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I think one of the reasons that so many AR organizations and groups are against breeding is for this very reason that you mention! “money grubbing” I’m sure there are a few dog breeders in the “breeding industry” who are in it for the “love of the breed” but there’s also a lot who are in it for the "money grubbing" and they don’t care much about the pups at all.certainly im not meaning everyone in the "breeding Industry" is "money grubbing" but I personally have a hard time believing that anyone could possibly be in it for the “love of the breed” while there are so many lovely pure bred dogs who need homes in shelters and rescues?There are so many pure bred dogs and cats that have to get euthanized. If someone was truly in it for the love of the breed why don’t they rescue this breed of dog that they love so much from shelters and rescues and re-home them instead of breeding them?Maybe, because they can't make money from these dogs? So who is really money grubbing? How can you accuse someone of “money grubbing” when there are so many animal breeders in the “breeding industry” who are in it for the money ?


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Posted 9/6/2008 3:51:59 PM


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You're right, most breeders are in it for the money. There are strict guidelines for dog breeding. (Of which I list on my website: cookiemiller.tripod.com.) I personally think that maybe they should make a strict law that all breeders need to follow those guidelines. But, education is key. The more people we can educate the more we can help get rid of bad breeders. If everyone refused to buy from bad breeders and only bought from shelters, rescues, and reputable breeders, the problem would soon be gone.
Without good breeders, there would be no one to protect the health of the breeds. I personally would not buy from a breeder who did not do something to help shelter/rescue dogs. Most dogs from shelters and rescues originally came from bad breeders and are not breeding quality. A breeding quality dog is a dog who passes all the necessary health tests and who fits the breed standard. There is much controversy about the breed standards, but I support them because without a standard we would not have anything to go by and the breeds's looks would vary much more. Also, the things in the standard help make a breed a perfect match for a certain person.

I plan to breed dogs (responsibly!) in the far future (after more years of research, study, and finding a mentor). I don't want to do it for money, I could not possibly care less for money. I just want to help keep the dog breeds healthy.


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I will support any reputable Rescue, Breeder, or petstore. While I do think it's good for people to consider a rescue pet, I don't think that is the only option. Some people want to know A dogs lineage like people with small children or allergies. The key to stopping the pet overpopulation largely lies with stopping unwanted litters!! Even if you do rescue a dog, yes you do save that life, but another just filles that place. Lets just estimate that 25% of dogs in shelters are purebreds. That means the other 75% is largely made up of Oops litters. If we decrease the number of "oops" litters, then think of the number of lives we can save!!!

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