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Posted 5/10/2008 6:20:12 PM
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Hello all, I fear I misrepresented myself. I am a responsible dog owner, please allow me to explain more of my situation.

As a new member here, maybe I should have properly introduced myself, and my position with unwanted puppies, and any domestic animals.

 Well, I don't want to breed her with a lab if possible, I'd rather have a Golden. I don't want to breed her just because she is huge. We have always had 3 dogs, recently My female died after a 12 year battle with Diabetes. Last year my male died at age 17, of old age. Both of those dogs were rescues. At various times, we had 5 dogs, because I fostered, but only until owners could be obtained. We also had a cat who lived to be 22 years old(he had treatable medical issues for his final 4 years, but at 22, he had started to go blind, and kidney issues, and we had him put to sleep). With my diabetic dog, we also spent great time and expense keeping her happy and healthy. I also took the time to educate myself on dogs, and cats. My vet suggested I might be a good candidate for fostering. My first name is RondaLee, I made my name into a website:

r-rights  o-of  n-neglected  d-domestic  a-animals  l-live  E-ethically,  E- Equally.  Visit me at Rondalee.com (Rights of Neglected Domestic Animals, Live Equally, Ethically)

Let me also explain why I feel some females need to be Moms. I had fostered a spayed female for 2 years (believe it or not her original owner who had been here on vacation, were reunited after 2 years!), who twice, thought she was pregnant. My neighbors dog, a mother of 7 puppies, Great Danes, died soon after giving birth. Lacey (my neighbor) and I talked, and we'd heard about female dogs actually producing milk, when being around newborn pups. Being my dog suffered false pregnancies, We gave it a shot; and to our pleasant surprise, my dog Twinkie, did indeed produce milk, and cared for these puppies. You should have seen the looks on the faces of those who adopted the pups, when my they saw my 55 lb dog with these huge puppies!

  If I breed my dog, I will personally be keeping 2 of them, and already have 3 friends on board to adopt another 4. So 6 of the puppies, will already have homes. All 6 of these will be spayed or neutered right away. I am locally involved in animal rights, and know for sure I will find proper homes. I am even willing to refund $100.00 of the price I charge, to owners who can show me they had the puppy fixed in a reasonable amount of time. The 4 reserved for friends, I am giving to them for free.

I hope this clears up any fears you all have about me breeding my dog Savannah. I wish I'd of shared all of this sooner.

Thanks for hearing me out!

RondaLee

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Posted 5/10/2008 7:46:24 PM


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Utterly ridiculous.  No dog "needs" to be a mother.  Just another example of humans anthropomorphizing their dog.  Another BYB making excuses...

The Backyard Breeders' and Puppy Millers' Big Book of Old Excuses


1. When called on bad breeding practices, ALWAYS claim that you are merely an innocent posting as a favor to a friend or family member.

2. Point out that everybody you know breeds this way, therefore it must be okay.

3. Claim that "snobby show breeders" are only criticizing you because they want to corner the market on puppy profit.

4. Claim that a Champion in the pedigree is just as good as 56 Champions in the pedigree. Not that it matters, because you doubt that there is such a thing as a dog with 56 champions in the pedigree.

5. Claim that you are just trying to produce good pets, therefore good pets are all you need for breeding.

6. When asked about health testing, enthusiastically point out that your female dog had a health checkup before breeding.

7. Be sure to mention that you do not need to run such health tests as OFA, CERF, thyroid, cardiac, patellae, etc., because your dogs look healthy and had no visible problems at their last vet checkup.

8. Point out that these tests cost too much and would cut into your profit margin. Be sure to champion the right of poor people to breed dogs.

9. Confidently assure worried rescuers that no puppy you produce, or any of their puppies or grand puppies or great-grandpuppies will end up in shelters because you have a bunch of friends who have told you that they'd like a pup from your female dog.

10. Point out that you don't need Championships or working titles on your dogs because you are breeding for temperament and your dog is really sweet.

11. Silence those annoying people who ask about your health guarantee by assuring them that buyers can return any sick puppies and you will replace it with another pup as long as it got sick within a certain amount of time of sale and as long as you don't think the buyer did something to make the puppy sick.

12. If your breed or line is rare (or you have a "rare" color, or believe your breed or color is rare), be sure to remind everyone that you do not need to show, temperament test, or health test your breeding stock because you are doing the world a service by continuing this "rare" breed/color/line.

13. No matter what anyone else says, claim that you obviously know what you are doing because you've been breeding for a long time. Point to the hundreds of puppies you've pumped out over the years as proof.

14. If this is your first attempt at breeding, make sure to remind everyone that you HAVE to breed your dog because how else are you going to learn how to breed?

15. Assure everyone that your dog does not need to be shown because you were assured by someone at Petsmart/the park/the vet's office/a friend that your dog is a perfect example of the breed.

16. Always remember that "rare" colors, oversized or undersized dogs, and mixes of popular breeds are great selling points. Anyone who doesn't think so is obviously not in tune with their customers' wishes.

17. Claim that your dogs are better because they are not inbred, as inbreeding obviously produces sick/stupid/deformed dogs. If breeding poo [as in "Cock-a-Poo," "Peek-a-Poo," etc.] dogs or other mutts, always point to "hybrid vigor" as proof of your dogs' superiority.

18. Remind everyone that you do not need a waiting list because your puppies are cute.

19. Assure everyone that your puppies will not end up in shelters because they are cute.

20. Claim that YOUR breed never ends up in shelters in your area, therefore your puppies will never end up in shelters.

21. If asked why you think your dogs are breeding quality, point out that they "have papers." Extra points awarded for using the phrase "AKC Certified." Double points if those papers come from the Continental Kennel Club.

22. If you sell a sick puppy, always blame the owners for making it sick. If the owners are clearly not responsible, blame their vet. (see #11)

23. If presented with irrefutable evidence proving you wrong on any excuses you have used, pretend your server did not receive the post/e-mail.

24. Claim that none of the rules of ethical breeding apply to you because you only intend to have one litter and therefore aren't a "real" breeder.

25. If all else fails, tell everyone who criticizes you to "get a life."


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Posted 5/11/2008 7:20:54 AM


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2browndogs hit the nail on the head.  It seems like you didn't even read what was said to you originally, otherwise you'd understand why you shouldn't be breeding.  THERE ARE ENOUGH DOGS ALREADY.  STOP MAKING MORE.  You do not show, you do not health test, you should not be breeding.  female doges go through false pregnancies because of progesterone, not because of emotions.  PLEASE SPAY YOUR DOG.
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Posted 5/11/2008 9:28:56 AM


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I respect your opinion on breeding her.  I still don't exactly understand why your breeding her.  Understand though people will label you a "byb", I myself don't label I think people need to decide for themselves what a reputable breeder is.  I can tell you really care about your dogs and the health of your puppies.

       

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Posted 5/11/2008 12:09:24 PM


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outcast13 (5/11/2008)
I respect your opinion on breeding her.  I still don't exactly understand why your breeding her.  Understand though people will label you a "byb", I myself don't label I think people need to decide for themselves what a reputable breeder is.  I can tell you really care about your dogs and the health of your puppies.
No.  This has nothing to do with it.  So what if she cares about her dogs?  That gives her the right to pump out more?  No, it doesn't.  There is a huge overpopulation problem, people need to use discretion or it will never change.  The OP is in no way a reputable breeder.
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Posted 5/11/2008 1:14:13 PM


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I respect your opinion on breeding her.  I still don't exactly understand why your breeding her.  Understand though people will label you a "byb", I myself don't label I think people need to decide for themselves what a reputable breeder is.  I can tell you really care about your dogs and the health of your puppies.
No.  This has nothing to do with it.  So what if she cares about her dogs?  That gives her the right to pump out more?  No, it doesn't.  There is a huge overpopulation problem, people need to use discretion or it will never change.  The OP is in no way a reputable breeder.

I think most people care to some extent about their dogs. However it is important to recognize that this doesn't make them experienced enough in order to produce healthy, well adjusted puppies. This itself takes years of research (in which I've taken on myself, theres a lot to know!). Sitting around saying "Wah, it isn't fair I can't do it too" isn't the attitude to take, rather "I want to breed, so how can I learn to do it properly". It takes a degree to be involved in birthing human babies, and it takes practicaly as much research as a degree will give you to learn about breeding and raising dogs.

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Posted 5/11/2008 1:18:03 PM


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DagonHounds (5/11/2008)
2browndogs hit the nail on the head.  It seems like you didn't even read what was said to you originally, otherwise you'd understand why you shouldn't be breeding.  THERE ARE ENOUGH DOGS ALREADY.  STOP MAKING MORE.  You do not show, you do not health test, you should not be breeding.  female doges go through false pregnancies because of progesterone, not because of emotions.  PLEASE SPAY YOUR DOG.

Haha, no kidding. If emotions were involved in false pregnancies why don't we see them more often in humans? Our emotional centres in the brain are bloody HUGE compared to the canine brain, wouldn't that mean we'd have women left right and centre having them? (We actually don't tend to as much because dogs have a more progesterone regulated cycle, wheras ours are estrogen-progesterone)

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