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| The only thing about blowing in a dogs face that I dont like is that unless you are holding the dog down it could still bite you if it got irritated enough. I think that a well timed swat the rump is much kinder and more humane than shock collars or the prong collars. I like to use sound aversion if the dog responds to it. Example: A dog is geting into the garbage can so the minute it gets close to the garbage can you make a loud noise like filling up an aluminum can with nails and shake it, or an air horn, or slamming a book on the table. It seems to work most of the time but sometimes I still need to swat to get the point across if the dog stops responding to the noise.
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Farm Girl (7/9/2008)
The only thing about blowing in a dogs face that I dont like is that unless you are holding the dog down it could still bite you if it got irritated enough. I think that a well timed swat the rump is much kinder and more humane than shock collars or the prong collars. I like to use sound aversion if the dog responds to it. Example: A dog is geting into the garbage can so the minute it gets close to the garbage can you make a loud noise like filling up an aluminum can with nails and shake it, or an air horn, or slamming a book on the table. It seems to work most of the time but sometimes I still need to swat to get the point across if the dog stops responding to the noise.I agree with you that shock collars are just bad, its just taking the easy way out of training. And love your suggestion on the startling training, its very effecient to get the dogs attention, however a quick reprimand is all thats needed to get the point across. Maybe even pointing at the garbage can (in this case) and say "No, Don't do that" in a firm voice. Dogs are one of the few animals that will follow your gaze or to where your finger is pointing, a dog trainer once told me that. Granted not 100% of the time but its more effecient and less traumatizing than a kick or whatever. As for prong collar, I'll disagree with you on that. Unless its used as a form of punishment, I think its a great tool to use to curb pulling behaviors, as long as its used correctly.
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Junior_and_Me (7/10/2008)
Farm Girl (7/9/2008)
The only thing about blowing in a dogs face that I dont like is that unless you are holding the dog down it could still bite you if it got irritated enough. I think that a well timed swat the rump is much kinder and more humane than shock collars or the prong collars. I like to use sound aversion if the dog responds to it. Example: A dog is geting into the garbage can so the minute it gets close to the garbage can you make a loud noise like filling up an aluminum can with nails and shake it, or an air horn, or slamming a book on the table. It seems to work most of the time but sometimes I still need to swat to get the point across if the dog stops responding to the noise.I agree with you that shock collars are just bad, its just taking the easy way out of training. And love your suggestion on the startling training, its very effecient to get the dogs attention, however a quick reprimand is all thats needed to get the point across. Maybe even pointing at the garbage can (in this case) and say "No, Don't do that" in a firm voice. Dogs are one of the few animals that will follow your gaze or to where your finger is pointing, a dog trainer once told me that. Granted not 100% of the time but its more effecient and less traumatizing than a kick or whatever. As for prong collar, I'll disagree with you on that. Unless its used as a form of punishment, I think its a great tool to use to curb pulling behaviors, as long as its used correctly. I have to disagree with you about the the shock collar. it is a great tool to use if you need to make a correction from far away. for example if you have a dog that chases cars, bikes, people whatever, and they are off leash by the time you catch up with the dog it will not know what it is being corrected for, and we all know you should never call a dog to you and then correct right!? so an e-collar is the perfect tool in that case. granted the e-collar should not be used if you dont know what you are doing, but then again neither should any training equipment be used without learning the proper way to use it. In my oppinion an e-collar is a more humane way to train than hitting, but i have shelties they are sensitive dogs they dont do well with any harsh treatment including a correction with a training collar. if you give a leash correction they will yelp and either be slow to respond the next time or they will shut down completley and not move. they work better with positive training, with lots of praise and the occasional treat. there are many methods of training and each dog is different. so what works with one dog might not work with another. If you have say a lab you probably could get away with a thump and the dog would not care at all, but if you have a sensitive breed like a sheltie you could ruin that trust forever. as for blowing in the dogs face... that is a game we play with our dogs  we blow at them they run a lap and come back for more, or if they are being lazy we get licked in the nose instead of them running
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I have not read this whole thread but in the beginning I saw some people saying that smacking a dog is the same as clicker training. Just in case someone is looking into clicker training I want to make it very clear that clicker training is the COMPLETE opposite of smacking a dog. While smacking a dog can be very affective in some cases in others such as aggression it is horrible!!!!! That is when clicker training really helps. Clicker training is using a sound such as snapping your fingers or simply saying "yes" when your dog does something right. Then you reward with a treat. The clicker is a piece of metal that makes a loud clicking noise when you press it. Now i would probably compare a prong or shock collar with smacking a dog but deffinantly NOT the positive reenforcement method of the clicker. Just wanted to state my opinion
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rainsmom (7/10/2008)
[quote]as for blowing in the dogs face... that is a game we play with our dogs we blow at them they runa lap and come back for more, or if they are being lazy we get lickedin the nose instead of them running
Haha Spencer and I do the same thing  He gets all excited and starts butt-tucking around the room
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I agree with the occasionally smack. But I try positive enforcement rather than bringing attention to the bad habits. People who are out of control should have more than just punishement. They also need rehabilitation themselves for why they are taking their anger out on animals, and further education on how to properly discipline a dog. It's one thing to punish someone but you do have to show them the right way afterward. Kinda like working with a child. After all, their acting like children.
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| My son's dog, Mary, was stolen from a litter when she was about 3 weeks old. She learned in the week that the addict had her that human hands were for hurting. When my son dropped her off to me, she was 5 weeks old and absolutely vicious!!!! Imagine, 5 weeks. Anyway, thoughout the years, she's come along and she's a very friendly dog now. It took ALOT of work. I think anyone who abuses animals should be in jail!!!
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