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With all due respect, breeding that with almost no knowledge about it is a BYB practice.
Firstly, good breeders study for years and get a good mentor before actually breeding. Even after they are ready, before they breed they need to find some good dogs that are good representatives pf their breed then they do health testing (including OFA and CERF). There are many expenses, including being ready for any complications that can and often do come up.
In short, breeding responsibly doesn't bring any $$.
Also, good breeders breed only to help improve the breed.
If someone still wants to breed their dog like you, however, though I disagree with doing that, the least they should do is have an official contract that requires the buyers to spay and neuter the puppy they buy.
But I must say, why did you want two puppies? To get a dog just like your dog? Genetics is a complicated thing and even puppies in the same litter have very distinct differences. To get a puppy cheaper?
Actually, considering all the complications that often come up (including possibly having to do a c-section on the dog), it would probably be cheaper just to buy another dog, depending of course where you buy it from.
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No, BYBs are not necessarily bad people. My own uncle is a BYB, but he is actually a great guy besides.
Proud owner of a GSD [German Shepherd Dog] named Cookie:
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I also have a Papillon/Sheltie mix named Treader:
dogster.com/dogs/590007
If you love German Shepherds or own one, please check out this forum:
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[b]I thought this was the dog breeding board, not the anti-dog breeding, attack people board.. Be helpful, your opinion doesn't mean much, use facts that you can back up!
There is nothing wrong with breeding..But learn all you can about it before doing so, and if at all possible find a mentor from a reputable breeder.
Talk to your vet, have your vet do an exam and testing before breeding, and also yearly. And do not let people intimidate you with their "opinions" and so called facts they get from other anti-breeders.
People throw those terms around and have no clue what they really mean. If someone attacks you, ignore them and take the advice from people who really want to help and the ones who have actual data to back up what they say...[/b]
He who is cruel to animals becomes hard also in his dealings with men. We can judge the heart of a man by his treatment of animals.
~Immanuel Kant~
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so what you are saying is that the op should go ahead and breed her oversized golden retriever, and ignore us when their are thousands of goldens in breed rescues and shelters? sorry but I am not going to tell someone they should breed their dog especially someone who doesnt know what they are doing doesnt health test!
 
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mommadog (8/23/2008)
I thought this was the dog breeding board, not the anti-dog breeding, attack people board.. Be helpful, your opinion doesn't mean much, use facts that you can back up!
There is nothing wrong with breeding..But learn all you can about it before doing so, and if at all possible find a mentor from a reputable breeder.
Talk to your vet, have your vet do an exam and testing before breeding, and also yearly. And do not let people intimidate you with their "opinions" and so called facts they get from other anti-breeders.
People throw those terms around and have no clue what they really mean. If someone attacks you, ignore them and take the advice from people who really want to help and the ones who have actual data to back up what they say...
Okay, this board is for people who accidently got their dog pregnant or are a good breeder. Not for people who want to breed for the heck of it. Therefore when someone posts something like that we reply suggesting they don't because it can not only kill their dog if the breeding isn't done properly but cause big issues. You do realize that in your post you are supporting byb's? Which is just as bad as a puppy mill. Why don't you honestly go to a real puppy mill and tell the world how great they are. *I'm being sarcastic there* I find it sad. We are helping the lady, not being rude. Just telling her what we think is best which is not to breed.
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I'm not anti-breeding. I'm all for it, so long as it's RESPONSIBLE breeding. The truth is, not many people do it the right way or for the right reasons.
Breeding is complicated by the fact that inbreeding is making it harder to keep the breeds healthy (as shown by the BBC broadcast, "Pedigree Dogs Exposed") and part of the problem is that so many people are breeding without so much as researching first.
This explains it better, lots of good info here:
dogster.com/forums/Choosing_the_Right_Dog/thread/550671
You will recognize me as the user/dog, Gray Dawntreader in the link.
A simple vet check is NOT enough. Yes, I am for a vet check, but besides a vet check you need genetic health testing (such as OFA, CERF, and several other tests), which is expensive and not available at the vet's office. I think of myself as a voice crying out for the health of the dog breeds and against BYBs and puppy mills. And by golly, I'm doing all in my power to help stop them!
See my website, it's dedicated to educating people about what the reputable breeder does and his reasons for breeding dogs.
I have data to back up what I say. Wanna see it? If so, remember you asked for it.
Proud owner of a GSD [German Shepherd Dog] named Cookie:
dogster.com/dogs/517115
I also have a Papillon/Sheltie mix named Treader:
dogster.com/dogs/590007
If you love German Shepherds or own one, please check out this forum:
shepherds4ever.allgoo.net/portal.htm
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